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Post by Cherry-Pie on Jan 19, 2011 21:31:16 GMT
What's your favourite costume in the show?
I would have to say that's it's between two dresses for me. Her dress in Wenn Ich Tanzen Will, her Hungarian coronation dress I believe it's based on. The other on would have to be her dress at the end of Act 1. The one in the Ich Gehor' Nur Mir (Reprise), the one based on the painting. I think it's lovely! I was also wondering if anyone knew the meaning behind the vines I think they are on the costumes? I've been reading a lot about Elisabeth but I still have no idea. Does anyone have any idea?
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Post by Havanah on Jan 19, 2011 21:35:37 GMT
This is a really common question. It seems that it's supposed to represent decay - apparently this was said in an interview somewhere but I haven't seen it. Also, the dress that Elisabeth wore the night before her wedding seems to have a similar pattern but I can only find a tiny version of the photo of this so I cannot be sure. I should be going to Vienna later this year and will go to the museum where that's kept so I can have a little look.
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Post by WennIchTanzenWill on Jan 19, 2011 21:35:40 GMT
I think its meant to be a sign for death and decay? Just a guess?
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Post by Cherry-Pie on Jan 19, 2011 21:57:51 GMT
Thanks for the explaination! I'd never even thought of that. I was thinking along the lines of, since it's being told years after it happened, that it's almost as if the memories have been waiting to be told and so the vines had grown on them like statues.
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Post by WennIchTanzenWill on Jan 19, 2011 22:01:06 GMT
Oooh, I like your version too! Nice use of imagery! (me: bad use of exclamation marks! bad! too many!)
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Post by Havanah on Jan 19, 2011 22:05:25 GMT
Other people have come up with that one too. And someone said that maybe it was because ivy grows in graveyards. I always just thought that they were there to look pretty! Shallow person that I am.
As for favourite costume... I agree with you that I like those too. I also love the dress that Elisabeth wears to go to the madhouse. I'd wear that dress (or is it a shirt and skirt?)
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Post by cen on Jan 20, 2011 4:03:55 GMT
Lol, I second that statement! Symbolism is often lost on me...
Sometimes I wish I was into costuming. It would be great fun to cosplay as Elisabeth!
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Post by WennIchTanzenWill on Jan 20, 2011 8:24:19 GMT
Mmm, I do love her "Think of m"- wait, nooooooo Lloyd Webber, BAD LLOYD WEBBER! That is not a christine dress, it's a Elisabeth dress! Come back here! Plagerism! Thief! (heh, I love him really, if only he hadn't gotten so greedy recently...)
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Post by Havanah on Jan 20, 2011 8:37:32 GMT
Yeah, I have a bag with Elisabeth on it in the famous painting and I have had so many people ask me if it's a cheap phantom of the opera bag. Cheap because it's a painting not a photo to get round copyright!
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Post by WennIchTanzenWill on Jan 20, 2011 8:41:26 GMT
You have a bag? Awesome! What kinda bag? where'd you get it from? TELL ALL! Mmm, I love how he just nicks loads, and no one really ever notices...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 9:17:52 GMT
It always botherd me that they used Elisabeth's dress in Phantom. I don't know why, it just does.
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Post by WennIchTanzenWill on Jan 20, 2011 13:45:51 GMT
mmm... it doesn't irritate me, exactly... I dunno, I mean, obviously it is just nicking the dress because he's too lazy to come up with one of his own.. m(hang on- does webber even come up with the costumes? Somehow, I don't think so...) But it is a useful link, for bringing Phantom phans (like myself) over to the Elisabeth fandom...
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Post by germaine on Jan 20, 2011 14:45:05 GMT
It always botherd me that they used Elisabeth's dress in Phantom. I don't know why, it just does. It always bothered me because a) it is a dress that is associated with a definite character in most minds and b) it doesn't make sense that the Queen of Carthage or whoever Elyssa is wears a dress from the 19th century Europe. It makes no blessed sense!
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Post by Mrs.Camui on Jan 20, 2011 19:21:58 GMT
Other people have come up with that one too. And someone said that maybe it was because ivy grows in graveyards.I always just thought that they were there to look pretty! Shallow person that I am. lol, that was me. I wrote a long stuck-up essay like analysis about it on youtube. XDDD
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Post by Havanah on Jan 20, 2011 20:17:02 GMT
It wasn't stuck up! I really liked that idea!
I couldn't remember who it was, which is awful!
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