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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2010 11:55:25 GMT
Something that suprises me that they didn't put in the show is the assasination attempt on Franz Joseph. In 1853, a Hungarian nationalist tried to kill him, but luckily he survived the injury, unlike his wife who didn't survive hers in 1898. The funny thing is that they were both stabbed.
Why didn't that make into the show? Great drama, and it could be a warning from Death and make Elisabeth rethink her relationship with her husband.
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Post by cen on Dec 18, 2010 19:43:12 GMT
From the reading I've done on Elisabeth, Franz Joseph was stabbed before they were married (a year or so before they met again, if I remember correctly). Since the musical starts shortly before she and Franz Joseph meet, it makes sense that they wouldn't include the attempt on his life as part of the plot. Then again, since they juggled dates around a little bit, it could have made for great drama as a warning from Death! Regardless, it is an interesting historical coincidence.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2010 19:48:10 GMT
Yeah, I just realised it was before they were married. Ups...  |
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Post by Havanah on Dec 19, 2010 14:11:59 GMT
It still could have been interesting to put that in later to add to the drama but I guess, as they are sticking really closely to real life, they didn't want to edit the timeline.
I like the idea of it being a warning though! Shame history wasn't kind enough to have it happen in the right place!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2010 15:27:43 GMT
If they had put in the show, it would add more to the confrontation between Death and Franz Joseph during An Deck der sinkenden Welt. Then it wouldn't only be about Elisabeth, but it would have another side to it. But why Death would have any contact with him, like with Elisabeth and Rudolf, I do not know.
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Post by cen on Dec 20, 2010 4:32:08 GMT
Death might have had contact with him out of jealousy. A spur of the moment brief confrontation with his rival, perhaps? Then Elisabeth could have interfered or Death would have had to turn away, for now, because it wasn't Franz Joseph's time? That would have been really interesting!
They did play with the timeline a little bit (Rudolf was a very very young child when Elisabeth left the first time. In the show he's like 8, but I think in real life he was 2 or 3)... so I guess playing with the timeline worked only when it directly smoothed out the plot?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2010 14:18:13 GMT
I just realised that the assasination attempt on Franz Joseph was a year before he married Sisi. But he also met her a year before they married. So really, it could have happened in the show. If it was after they met, that is.
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Post by cen on Dec 21, 2010 1:10:11 GMT
Believe it was before they met... still, it would have been wonderful! I'm tempted to write a fanfic about it, but I wouldn't know where to start.
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Post by Havanah on Dec 21, 2010 16:45:26 GMT
Oh go for it Cen! I'd have the very start in Deaths point of view then change it to neutral if I were going to have a go but I always mess around with POV in stories!
Oh dear, the three of us could have a good go at rewriting the play!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2010 19:11:12 GMT
Oh dear, the three of us could have a good go at rewriting the play! Yeah! Count me in! |
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Post by cen on Dec 24, 2010 4:33:46 GMT
Sounds like fun! Where should we start? Or rather... who wants to start?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2011 11:53:29 GMT
The other day when I watched the scene where Death has taken Sisi's first child, I noticed that Franz Joseph looks back at Death as he leads Sisi away. Why is that? Does he see Death like Sisi does? Surely, he sees something or he wouldn't look back.
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Post by rachel on Jun 6, 2011 9:11:31 GMT
I just watched another scene that's in the Dutch and Takarazuka productions but not in the Austrian or German productions. It explains Rudolf's political views and in my opinion the whole story makes more sense when it's there. They didn't include it because the Austrian and German audiences knew the history of what happened and so didn't need it explained and the directors didn't want to focus too much on Rudolf. I like this scene and think it should be included.
(I don't speak dutch but theres an explanation of what is going on in the information box underneath the video on youtube)
And this is another stupid video that I found on youtube that I think I should share.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 11:21:43 GMT
I really like how they use Der Letzte Tanz. Good choice. And I am never gonna look a cakes the same way again! LOL  ;D |
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Post by digne on Jun 6, 2011 13:19:18 GMT
I just watched another scene that's in the Dutch and Takarazuka productions but not in the Austrian or German productions. It explains Rudolf's political views and in my opinion the whole story makes more sense when it's there. They didn't include it because the Austrian and German audiences knew the history of what happened and so didn't need it explained and the directors didn't want to focus too much on Rudolf. I like this scene and think it should be included. (I don't speak dutch but theres an explanation of what is going on in the information box underneath the video on youtube) This scene is in the German version -- or at least it has been in the German version. I have no idea if it is now, but it was in the Essen production. Although this scene has never been in the Austrian version of the show. |
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